Here's a question that'll likely get a variety of reactions.but here
we go:
What are recommended responses to encountering dog(s)on the trail?
Here's the situation: The park does not require leashes or have any
posted dog related rules. I was walking on the trail when I saw an
energetic, young hound-type dog with another hiker who was far behind
me. I heard the dog running up behind me and then past. He stopped
and then turned and ran back to me and jumped with his front paws on
my chest.
I sharply commanded, "down"! Eventually he ran away. But then twice
more during this short hike the same dog did the same thing.
What would you have done?
I admit that I am not a dog-person.
I'm especially interested in what ideas you dog lovers would suggest.
Thanks,
azobox
question about dogs
11 messages in this thread |
Started on 2004-05-01
question about dogs
From: azobox (jparkerg@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-05-01 16:21:33 UTC
Re: question about dogs
From: psycomommy2003 (ktborrelli@hotmail.com) |
Date: 2004-05-01 17:36:38 UTC
- The dog knows you aren't a dog person so he's sticking it to you.
Bring your knee up to your chest so it gets him in his chest. This is
to protect you and discourage him. The down command was good. The
dogs owner was an insensitive blahblah. Not all of us are like that.
A lover of the big dog breeds, Psychomom
-- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "azobox" wrote:
> Here's a question that'll likely get a variety of reactions.but
here
> we go:
> What are recommended responses to encountering dog(s)on the trail?
> Here's the situation: The park does not require leashes or have any
> posted dog related rules. I was walking on the trail when I saw an
> energetic, young hound-type dog with another hiker who was far
behind
> me. I heard the dog running up behind me and then past. He stopped
> and then turned and ran back to me and jumped with his front paws
on
> my chest.
> I sharply commanded, "down"! Eventually he ran away. But then twice
> more during this short hike the same dog did the same thing.
> What would you have done?
> I admit that I am not a dog-person.
> I'm especially interested in what ideas you dog lovers would
suggest.
> Thanks,
>
> azobox
Bring your knee up to your chest so it gets him in his chest. This is
to protect you and discourage him. The down command was good. The
dogs owner was an insensitive blahblah. Not all of us are like that.
A lover of the big dog breeds, Psychomom
-- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "azobox"
> Here's a question that'll likely get a variety of reactions.but
here
> we go:
> What are recommended responses to encountering dog(s)on the trail?
> Here's the situation: The park does not require leashes or have any
> posted dog related rules. I was walking on the trail when I saw an
> energetic, young hound-type dog with another hiker who was far
behind
> me. I heard the dog running up behind me and then past. He stopped
> and then turned and ran back to me and jumped with his front paws
on
> my chest.
> I sharply commanded, "down"! Eventually he ran away. But then twice
> more during this short hike the same dog did the same thing.
> What would you have done?
> I admit that I am not a dog-person.
> I'm especially interested in what ideas you dog lovers would
suggest.
> Thanks,
>
> azobox
Re: question about dogs
From: Tara (tarasdsu@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-05-01 18:09:55 UTC
Maybe i'm naive to the ways of off-leashing it while hiking (i'm a
city-type who has dogs only in populated areas), but I find it
completely rude of the owner to have let the dogs get so far ahead
so that they were not able to call their dogs off/away from you. I
can't imagaine my dogs being that far away from me! wow. I guess
that since we cannot control the actions of others, a stern "off!"
along with a knee to the chest is definately the best response from
you. Dogs are just excited to see new people. We have one very
friendly girl who just has to say hello to everyone at the dog
park...and it kills me when people allow her to jump on them...we
are really trying to train her not to do this. The way we are doing
that at home is exactly what you did, and what was suggested to you.
Good luck :D
TAra
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "psycomommy2003"
wrote:
> - The dog knows you aren't a dog person so he's sticking it to
you.
> Bring your knee up to your chest so it gets him in his chest. This
is
> to protect you and discourage him. The down command was good. The
> dogs owner was an insensitive blahblah. Not all of us are like
that.
> A lover of the big dog breeds, Psychomom
>
> -- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "azobox"
wrote:
> > Here's a question that'll likely get a variety of reactions.but
> here
> > we go:
> > What are recommended responses to encountering dog(s)on the
trail?
> > Here's the situation: The park does not require leashes or have
any
> > posted dog related rules. I was walking on the trail when I saw
an
> > energetic, young hound-type dog with another hiker who was far
> behind
> > me. I heard the dog running up behind me and then past. He
stopped
> > and then turned and ran back to me and jumped with his front
paws
> on
> > my chest.
> > I sharply commanded, "down"! Eventually he ran away. But then
twice
> > more during this short hike the same dog did the same thing.
> > What would you have done?
> > I admit that I am not a dog-person.
> > I'm especially interested in what ideas you dog lovers would
> suggest.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > azobox
city-type who has dogs only in populated areas), but I find it
completely rude of the owner to have let the dogs get so far ahead
so that they were not able to call their dogs off/away from you. I
can't imagaine my dogs being that far away from me! wow. I guess
that since we cannot control the actions of others, a stern "off!"
along with a knee to the chest is definately the best response from
you. Dogs are just excited to see new people. We have one very
friendly girl who just has to say hello to everyone at the dog
park...and it kills me when people allow her to jump on them...we
are really trying to train her not to do this. The way we are doing
that at home is exactly what you did, and what was suggested to you.
Good luck :D
TAra
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "psycomommy2003"
> - The dog knows you aren't a dog person so he's sticking it to
you.
> Bring your knee up to your chest so it gets him in his chest. This
is
> to protect you and discourage him. The down command was good. The
> dogs owner was an insensitive blahblah. Not all of us are like
that.
> A lover of the big dog breeds, Psychomom
>
> -- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "azobox"
wrote:
> > Here's a question that'll likely get a variety of reactions.but
> here
> > we go:
> > What are recommended responses to encountering dog(s)on the
trail?
> > Here's the situation: The park does not require leashes or have
any
> > posted dog related rules. I was walking on the trail when I saw
an
> > energetic, young hound-type dog with another hiker who was far
> behind
> > me. I heard the dog running up behind me and then past. He
stopped
> > and then turned and ran back to me and jumped with his front
paws
> on
> > my chest.
> > I sharply commanded, "down"! Eventually he ran away. But then
twice
> > more during this short hike the same dog did the same thing.
> > What would you have done?
> > I admit that I am not a dog-person.
> > I'm especially interested in what ideas you dog lovers would
> suggest.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > azobox
Re: question about dogs
From: Deb (springchick@letterbox-mi.com) |
Date: 2004-05-01 19:20:07 UTC
I have had the same problem several times while out on the trail --
on trails where dogs are supposed to be leashed and often are not.
I cannot tell you how many times the dog owners will say, "oh he
won't hurt you" as the big old dog is jumping up on me (and the very
expensive camera hanging around my neck), slobbering all over the
place. In a few instances where I have mentioned that the dog
should be leashed, I have been told, "well we usually don't run into
people without dogs here" as if the trails were made specifically
for dog-walking and hikers are out of their element. I even had one
woman call me a bitch because I disgustedly pushed her dog away with
my foot.
There may be a degree of true in the statement that the dog knows if
you are a dog person or not, I know they can sense fear. But in my
case -- I am not afraid of the dog, I like dogs, we have two dogs at
home. I have no problem with my dogs jumping up on me and giving me
lickin' love -- I just don't appreciate it when it is unexpected and
the dog is not mine.
I don't know what the solution is short of dog owners being more
responsible. And to be fair, this is not the case with every
dog/owner. Unfortunately it is the few bad apples that ruin it for
everyone.
SpringChick
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "psycomommy2003"
wrote:
> - The dog knows you aren't a dog person so he's sticking it to
you.
> Bring your knee up to your chest so it gets him in his chest. This
is
> to protect you and discourage him. The down command was good. The
> dogs owner was an insensitive blahblah. Not all of us are like
that.
> A lover of the big dog breeds, Psychomom
>
> -- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "azobox"
wrote:
> > Here's a question that'll likely get a variety of reactions.but
> here
> > we go:
> > What are recommended responses to encountering dog(s)on the
trail?
> > Here's the situation: The park does not require leashes or have
any
> > posted dog related rules. I was walking on the trail when I saw
an
> > energetic, young hound-type dog with another hiker who was far
> behind
> > me. I heard the dog running up behind me and then past. He
stopped
> > and then turned and ran back to me and jumped with his front
paws
> on
> > my chest.
> > I sharply commanded, "down"! Eventually he ran away. But then
twice
> > more during this short hike the same dog did the same thing.
> > What would you have done?
> > I admit that I am not a dog-person.
> > I'm especially interested in what ideas you dog lovers would
> suggest.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > azobox
on trails where dogs are supposed to be leashed and often are not.
I cannot tell you how many times the dog owners will say, "oh he
won't hurt you" as the big old dog is jumping up on me (and the very
expensive camera hanging around my neck), slobbering all over the
place. In a few instances where I have mentioned that the dog
should be leashed, I have been told, "well we usually don't run into
people without dogs here" as if the trails were made specifically
for dog-walking and hikers are out of their element. I even had one
woman call me a bitch because I disgustedly pushed her dog away with
my foot.
There may be a degree of true in the statement that the dog knows if
you are a dog person or not, I know they can sense fear. But in my
case -- I am not afraid of the dog, I like dogs, we have two dogs at
home. I have no problem with my dogs jumping up on me and giving me
lickin' love -- I just don't appreciate it when it is unexpected and
the dog is not mine.
I don't know what the solution is short of dog owners being more
responsible. And to be fair, this is not the case with every
dog/owner. Unfortunately it is the few bad apples that ruin it for
everyone.
SpringChick
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "psycomommy2003"
> - The dog knows you aren't a dog person so he's sticking it to
you.
> Bring your knee up to your chest so it gets him in his chest. This
is
> to protect you and discourage him. The down command was good. The
> dogs owner was an insensitive blahblah. Not all of us are like
that.
> A lover of the big dog breeds, Psychomom
>
> -- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "azobox"
wrote:
> > Here's a question that'll likely get a variety of reactions.but
> here
> > we go:
> > What are recommended responses to encountering dog(s)on the
trail?
> > Here's the situation: The park does not require leashes or have
any
> > posted dog related rules. I was walking on the trail when I saw
an
> > energetic, young hound-type dog with another hiker who was far
> behind
> > me. I heard the dog running up behind me and then past. He
stopped
> > and then turned and ran back to me and jumped with his front
paws
> on
> > my chest.
> > I sharply commanded, "down"! Eventually he ran away. But then
twice
> > more during this short hike the same dog did the same thing.
> > What would you have done?
> > I admit that I am not a dog-person.
> > I'm especially interested in what ideas you dog lovers would
> suggest.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > azobox
Re: question about dogs
From: Nancy (prairiegirl1047@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-05-01 22:37:20 UTC
I had a dog jump on me once while letterboxing. The area was clearly
marked dogs must be leashed. I was walking down the trail when I
heard a barking dog running down the trail. I turned and saw a large
barking dog charging towards me with it's owner running much father
behind screaming at it to stop but the dog ignored the owner and
charged right at me and jumped on me barking away not in a friendly
greeting thats for sure. I was so startled I just froze and by then
the owner caught up with it and yanked it off me by the collar. The
dog was still trying to jump me as she was trying to put it's leash
on that she had been carrying in her hand. All she said was sorry I
didn't think anyone else was here today. Clearly a dog whose owner
has that little control over it should not be running off leash in a
public area. By the time I got my wits about me she was gone so I
never got to tell her what an idiot I thought she was.
Prairie Girl
marked dogs must be leashed. I was walking down the trail when I
heard a barking dog running down the trail. I turned and saw a large
barking dog charging towards me with it's owner running much father
behind screaming at it to stop but the dog ignored the owner and
charged right at me and jumped on me barking away not in a friendly
greeting thats for sure. I was so startled I just froze and by then
the owner caught up with it and yanked it off me by the collar. The
dog was still trying to jump me as she was trying to put it's leash
on that she had been carrying in her hand. All she said was sorry I
didn't think anyone else was here today. Clearly a dog whose owner
has that little control over it should not be running off leash in a
public area. By the time I got my wits about me she was gone so I
never got to tell her what an idiot I thought she was.
Prairie Girl
Re: [LbNA] question about dogs
From: Mary Ellen Martel (memlili54@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-05-01 15:45:20 UTC-07:00
I am another dog owner/lover who agrees with the knee to the chest and a loud "OFF!" (or down - my dogs have always been taught off when it comes to jumping on people.) The knee to the chest won't hurt the dog and if an owner is offended that you have kneed the dog - oh well. I knee my own dog if she jumps on me when it is not invited. It will take even the biggest dog by surprise and may just save that camera. I have also been known to mention that there is a leash law ~ not that it ever made an impression on anyone, but I think it made me feel better!
~ Memlili
azobox wrote:
Here's a question that'll likely get a variety of reactions.but here
we go:
What are recommended responses to encountering dog(s)on the trail?
Here's the situation: The park does not require leashes or have any
posted dog related rules. I was walking on the trail when I saw an
energetic, young hound-type dog with another hiker who was far behind
me. I heard the dog running up behind me and then past. He stopped
and then turned and ran back to me and jumped with his front paws on
my chest.
I sharply commanded, "down"! Eventually he ran away. But then twice
more during this short hike the same dog did the same thing.
What would you have done?
I admit that I am not a dog-person.
I'm especially interested in what ideas you dog lovers would suggest.
Thanks,
azobox
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azobox
Here's a question that'll likely get a variety of reactions.but here
we go:
What are recommended responses to encountering dog(s)on the trail?
Here's the situation: The park does not require leashes or have any
posted dog related rules. I was walking on the trail when I saw an
energetic, young hound-type dog with another hiker who was far behind
me. I heard the dog running up behind me and then past. He stopped
and then turned and ran back to me and jumped with his front paws on
my chest.
I sharply commanded, "down"! Eventually he ran away. But then twice
more during this short hike the same dog did the same thing.
What would you have done?
I admit that I am not a dog-person.
I'm especially interested in what ideas you dog lovers would suggest.
Thanks,
azobox
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Re: [LbNA] question about dogs
From: (HANNAHKAT@aol.com) |
Date: 2004-05-01 19:52:02 UTC-04:00
Dog owner/lover/former trainer here! This is a very sore issue for me, as
many of you know, so forgive my revisiting this.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. It is absolutely unacceptable for
ANY dog owner to allow their dog to be so beyond their control that the animal
even gets within arms length of another person without their permission.
When I ran dog-training classes, the very first thing I would teach in the
class is that your dog is considered to be your property, and that you are
responsible for making sure that your property causes no harm to anyone (just as
you are liable if someone gets hurt on your property). Forget jumping. Forget
chasing. Forget biting. All your dog as to do is be present and cause terror in
someone and you can have a lawsuit on your hands.
We dog owners sometimes forget that the indulgences we allow our pets are not
always welcome or acceptable around others. Just because you might not care
if your dog jumps on you does not make it okay to allow them to do it to
someone else.
As for what to do if it happens to you, I say that if you have some warning
(eg you see the dog from some distance away), shout to the owner to curb their
dog. If you have no warning, or if the owner is a bonehead and doesn't respond
to your shout, then telling the dog "NO!" or "OFF!" and knee-ing them firmly
in the chest is perfectly appropriate. You won't hurt the dog (but remember
that knee-ing them and KICKING them are two different things). If the dog owner
doesn't like it, TOO BAD! You did not ask to be assaulted. I usually ASK them
if they think that getting jumped on, scratched and muddied by a total
stranger's dog would be acceptable to THEM? I find that to be more effective than
telling them that their dog should be leashed. If they cared about that, they
would have leashed their dog. They are just are those amoral, entitled people
that we all meet from time to time. Yes, people! The rules DO apply to you.
In this litigious world, they should be more worried about what you might do
to them (ie suing them) rather than worrying about cramping their dog's style.
(I have said that to people on the trail too)
My dog is very aggressive toward other dogs, and I have to be very pro-active
about encounters with irresponsible dog owners. I shout to them at great
distance to curb their dog...often with the response of "oh, she won't hurt
you"...to which I respond "yes, but my dog will eat your dog." As you can imagine,
that often elicits a panicked response as they try to call off their dog and
avoid a fight and realize that they actually DON'T have the control they think
they do. The vast majority of dogs are not trained well enough to be called off
by voice alone...especially where another dog (...cat or squirrel) is
concerned.
Tell the person, "I do not want your dog near me!"
You have a right to hike without harassment or assault, or messed up clothes
or scratches...or slobber etc etc. and that means from dogs too! (LOL!)
Anyway, I'm done. Sorry for going on.
Good luck on the trail!
-Kim (rustypuff)
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many of you know, so forgive my revisiting this.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. It is absolutely unacceptable for
ANY dog owner to allow their dog to be so beyond their control that the animal
even gets within arms length of another person without their permission.
When I ran dog-training classes, the very first thing I would teach in the
class is that your dog is considered to be your property, and that you are
responsible for making sure that your property causes no harm to anyone (just as
you are liable if someone gets hurt on your property). Forget jumping. Forget
chasing. Forget biting. All your dog as to do is be present and cause terror in
someone and you can have a lawsuit on your hands.
We dog owners sometimes forget that the indulgences we allow our pets are not
always welcome or acceptable around others. Just because you might not care
if your dog jumps on you does not make it okay to allow them to do it to
someone else.
As for what to do if it happens to you, I say that if you have some warning
(eg you see the dog from some distance away), shout to the owner to curb their
dog. If you have no warning, or if the owner is a bonehead and doesn't respond
to your shout, then telling the dog "NO!" or "OFF!" and knee-ing them firmly
in the chest is perfectly appropriate. You won't hurt the dog (but remember
that knee-ing them and KICKING them are two different things). If the dog owner
doesn't like it, TOO BAD! You did not ask to be assaulted. I usually ASK them
if they think that getting jumped on, scratched and muddied by a total
stranger's dog would be acceptable to THEM? I find that to be more effective than
telling them that their dog should be leashed. If they cared about that, they
would have leashed their dog. They are just are those amoral, entitled people
that we all meet from time to time. Yes, people! The rules DO apply to you.
In this litigious world, they should be more worried about what you might do
to them (ie suing them) rather than worrying about cramping their dog's style.
(I have said that to people on the trail too)
My dog is very aggressive toward other dogs, and I have to be very pro-active
about encounters with irresponsible dog owners. I shout to them at great
distance to curb their dog...often with the response of "oh, she won't hurt
you"...to which I respond "yes, but my dog will eat your dog." As you can imagine,
that often elicits a panicked response as they try to call off their dog and
avoid a fight and realize that they actually DON'T have the control they think
they do. The vast majority of dogs are not trained well enough to be called off
by voice alone...especially where another dog (...cat or squirrel) is
concerned.
Tell the person, "I do not want your dog near me!"
You have a right to hike without harassment or assault, or messed up clothes
or scratches...or slobber etc etc. and that means from dogs too! (LOL!)
Anyway, I'm done. Sorry for going on.
Good luck on the trail!
-Kim (rustypuff)
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RE: [LbNA] Re: question about dogs
From: Debbi Scott (dscott5377@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2004-05-03 10:19:14 UTC-06:00
I have to agree with Tara... A dog should not be that far from the
owner. My son who is almost 2 is scared to death of dogs. In the
situation described, even if I had picked him up, it would not have
mattered. Leash or not, the owner has to have some control. And, if
they don't the dog should be at home.
Just my 2 cents.
Debbi
-----Original Message-----
From: Tara [mailto:tarasdsu@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 12:10 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] Re: question about dogs
Maybe i'm naive to the ways of off-leashing it while hiking (i'm a
city-type who has dogs only in populated areas), but I find it
completely rude of the owner to have let the dogs get so far ahead
so that they were not able to call their dogs off/away from you. I
can't imagaine my dogs being that far away from me! wow. I guess
that since we cannot control the actions of others, a stern "off!"
along with a knee to the chest is definately the best response from
you. Dogs are just excited to see new people. We have one very
friendly girl who just has to say hello to everyone at the dog
park...and it kills me when people allow her to jump on them...we
are really trying to train her not to do this. The way we are doing
that at home is exactly what you did, and what was suggested to you.
Good luck :D
TAra
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "psycomommy2003"
wrote:
> - The dog knows you aren't a dog person so he's sticking it to
you.
> Bring your knee up to your chest so it gets him in his chest. This
is
> to protect you and discourage him. The down command was good. The
> dogs owner was an insensitive blahblah. Not all of us are like
that.
> A lover of the big dog breeds, Psychomom
>
> -- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "azobox"
wrote:
> > Here's a question that'll likely get a variety of reactions..but
> here
> > we go:
> > What are recommended responses to encountering dog(s)on the
trail?
> > Here's the situation: The park does not require leashes or have
any
> > posted dog related rules. I was walking on the trail when I saw
an
> > energetic, young hound-type dog with another hiker who was far
> behind
> > me. I heard the dog running up behind me and then past. He
stopped
> > and then turned and ran back to me and jumped with his front
paws
> on
> > my chest.
> > I sharply commanded, "down"! Eventually he ran away. But then
twice
> > more during this short hike the same dog did the same thing.
> > What would you have done?
> > I admit that I am not a dog-person.
> > I'm especially interested in what ideas you dog lovers would
> suggest.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > azobox
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owner. My son who is almost 2 is scared to death of dogs. In the
situation described, even if I had picked him up, it would not have
mattered. Leash or not, the owner has to have some control. And, if
they don't the dog should be at home.
Just my 2 cents.
Debbi
-----Original Message-----
From: Tara [mailto:tarasdsu@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 12:10 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] Re: question about dogs
Maybe i'm naive to the ways of off-leashing it while hiking (i'm a
city-type who has dogs only in populated areas), but I find it
completely rude of the owner to have let the dogs get so far ahead
so that they were not able to call their dogs off/away from you. I
can't imagaine my dogs being that far away from me! wow. I guess
that since we cannot control the actions of others, a stern "off!"
along with a knee to the chest is definately the best response from
you. Dogs are just excited to see new people. We have one very
friendly girl who just has to say hello to everyone at the dog
park...and it kills me when people allow her to jump on them...we
are really trying to train her not to do this. The way we are doing
that at home is exactly what you did, and what was suggested to you.
Good luck :D
TAra
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "psycomommy2003"
> - The dog knows you aren't a dog person so he's sticking it to
you.
> Bring your knee up to your chest so it gets him in his chest. This
is
> to protect you and discourage him. The down command was good. The
> dogs owner was an insensitive blahblah. Not all of us are like
that.
> A lover of the big dog breeds, Psychomom
>
> -- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "azobox"
wrote:
> > Here's a question that'll likely get a variety of reactions..but
> here
> > we go:
> > What are recommended responses to encountering dog(s)on the
trail?
> > Here's the situation: The park does not require leashes or have
any
> > posted dog related rules. I was walking on the trail when I saw
an
> > energetic, young hound-type dog with another hiker who was far
> behind
> > me. I heard the dog running up behind me and then past. He
stopped
> > and then turned and ran back to me and jumped with his front
paws
> on
> > my chest.
> > I sharply commanded, "down"! Eventually he ran away. But then
twice
> > more during this short hike the same dog did the same thing.
> > What would you have done?
> > I admit that I am not a dog-person.
> > I'm especially interested in what ideas you dog lovers would
> suggest.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > azobox
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Re: question about dogs
From: trentlaudes (trentlaudes@excite.com) |
Date: 2004-05-04 01:46:35 UTC
Well, I'm an incredible dog lover, but it's just incredibly rude to
let an off-leash dog get beyond your sight and control. That said,
if the incident below happened to me, I'd rassal (how do you spell
this word) that dog to the ground and spend so much time playing with
him in the mud that I'd forget about going for the letterbox.
--Buzzard
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "azobox" wrote:
> Here's a question that'll likely get a variety of reactions.but
here
> we go:
> What are recommended responses to encountering dog(s)on the trail?
> Here's the situation: The park does not require leashes or have any
> posted dog related rules. I was walking on the trail when I saw an
> energetic, young hound-type dog with another hiker who was far
behind
> me. I heard the dog running up behind me and then past. He stopped
> and then turned and ran back to me and jumped with his front paws
on
> my chest.
> I sharply commanded, "down"! Eventually he ran away. But then twice
> more during this short hike the same dog did the same thing.
> What would you have done?
> I admit that I am not a dog-person.
> I'm especially interested in what ideas you dog lovers would
suggest.
> Thanks,
>
> azobox
let an off-leash dog get beyond your sight and control. That said,
if the incident below happened to me, I'd rassal (how do you spell
this word) that dog to the ground and spend so much time playing with
him in the mud that I'd forget about going for the letterbox.
--Buzzard
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "azobox"
> Here's a question that'll likely get a variety of reactions.but
here
> we go:
> What are recommended responses to encountering dog(s)on the trail?
> Here's the situation: The park does not require leashes or have any
> posted dog related rules. I was walking on the trail when I saw an
> energetic, young hound-type dog with another hiker who was far
behind
> me. I heard the dog running up behind me and then past. He stopped
> and then turned and ran back to me and jumped with his front paws
on
> my chest.
> I sharply commanded, "down"! Eventually he ran away. But then twice
> more during this short hike the same dog did the same thing.
> What would you have done?
> I admit that I am not a dog-person.
> I'm especially interested in what ideas you dog lovers would
suggest.
> Thanks,
>
> azobox
Re: [LbNA] Re: question about dogs
From: (HANNAHKAT@aol.com) |
Date: 2004-05-03 22:40:16 UTC-04:00
In a message dated 5/3/2004 9:47:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
trentlaudes@excite.com writes:
I'd rassal (how do you spell
this word) that dog to the ground and spend so much time playing with
him in the mud that I'd forget about going for the letterbox.
--Buzzard
LOL!
Just make sure you send the pup home SOOOOOOOOOOO muddy that his owner never
wants him to get near one of those unpredictable human strangers again!
-Kim (Rustypuff)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
trentlaudes@excite.com writes:
I'd rassal (how do you spell
this word) that dog to the ground and spend so much time playing with
him in the mud that I'd forget about going for the letterbox.
--Buzzard
LOL!
Just make sure you send the pup home SOOOOOOOOOOO muddy that his owner never
wants him to get near one of those unpredictable human strangers again!
-Kim (Rustypuff)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: question about dogs
From: runicwitch (runicwitch@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-05-16 22:09:14 UTC
Most states have a leash law requiring dogs to be on a leash or the
owner can be fined. My friend lets her dog run all the time and about
a year ago received a fine from the DEP as she was in a state forest.
Personally, I take my two boxers on every hike I go on and sign the
book as "runicwitch and dogs". However, I tend to keep them both on a
leash as we often encounter other hikers, children and dogs. The only
time I will let one of my dogs off is if we are in a very secluded
area as she stays fairly close and "holds" when I command (my other
boxer has a mind of her own, thinking is a human as well as I am!).
However, I often come across dogs running loose with the owner far
behind. I usually grab them by the collar and hold them until the
owner comes and I let them know if there are a lot of people up ahead
or not and that they should leash their dog to protect themselves from
lawsuits...hahha! Really, that's all they need is the dog to knock
down a child and have that child get hurt. Not only that, but my dogs
are very protective and will growl at another dog. They won't fight,
but they will try to look tough. Watch out or they will lick you to
death if you meet us on the trail!!!
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "azobox" wrote:
> Here's a question that'll likely get a variety of reactions.but here
> we go:
> What are recommended responses to encountering dog(s)on the trail?
> Here's the situation: The park does not require leashes or have any
> posted dog related rules. I was walking on the trail when I saw an
> energetic, young hound-type dog with another hiker who was far behind
> me. I heard the dog running up behind me and then past. He stopped
> and then turned and ran back to me and jumped with his front paws on
> my chest.
> I sharply commanded, "down"! Eventually he ran away. But then twice
> more during this short hike the same dog did the same thing.
> What would you have done?
> I admit that I am not a dog-person.
> I'm especially interested in what ideas you dog lovers would suggest.
> Thanks,
>
> azobox
owner can be fined. My friend lets her dog run all the time and about
a year ago received a fine from the DEP as she was in a state forest.
Personally, I take my two boxers on every hike I go on and sign the
book as "runicwitch and dogs". However, I tend to keep them both on a
leash as we often encounter other hikers, children and dogs. The only
time I will let one of my dogs off is if we are in a very secluded
area as she stays fairly close and "holds" when I command (my other
boxer has a mind of her own, thinking is a human as well as I am!).
However, I often come across dogs running loose with the owner far
behind. I usually grab them by the collar and hold them until the
owner comes and I let them know if there are a lot of people up ahead
or not and that they should leash their dog to protect themselves from
lawsuits...hahha! Really, that's all they need is the dog to knock
down a child and have that child get hurt. Not only that, but my dogs
are very protective and will growl at another dog. They won't fight,
but they will try to look tough. Watch out or they will lick you to
death if you meet us on the trail!!!
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "azobox"
> Here's a question that'll likely get a variety of reactions.but here
> we go:
> What are recommended responses to encountering dog(s)on the trail?
> Here's the situation: The park does not require leashes or have any
> posted dog related rules. I was walking on the trail when I saw an
> energetic, young hound-type dog with another hiker who was far behind
> me. I heard the dog running up behind me and then past. He stopped
> and then turned and ran back to me and jumped with his front paws on
> my chest.
> I sharply commanded, "down"! Eventually he ran away. But then twice
> more during this short hike the same dog did the same thing.
> What would you have done?
> I admit that I am not a dog-person.
> I'm especially interested in what ideas you dog lovers would suggest.
> Thanks,
>
> azobox